Rationals, this episode of Rational Grounds is one for the history books!
In this episode i hosted a fiery debate between Dusty Bogan, a National Libertarian, and Bayden Duke, a National Totalitarian, on the future of Australia Day and whether we should expand it into an entire Australia Month in celebration and in retaliation to the narrative to abolish Australia Day all together.
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They clashed on everything—from nationalism, government control, and cultural identity to woke politics and the role of tradition in modern Australia.
Dusty champions freedom, small government, and grassroots movements, while Bayden argues that taking control and strong state power is the only way to fix the chaos in our society.
If you've ever wondered how libertarianism and authoritarian nationalism stack up, or if you’re tired of the Australia Day debate and want a fresh perspective, this is the episode for you. We cover everything from Indigenous inclusion, the role of Anglo-Celtic heritage, and how to unite the right-wing movement in Australia.
who won the debate?
~ Diogo
TIMESTAMPS
(0:10:00) - (0:20:00) The Australia Month Proposal
Both guests discuss their views on expanding Australia Day into Australia Month.
Bayden proposes a structured, government-endorsed approach with historical themes each week.
Dusty argues for an organic, grassroots movement that Australians can shape however they want.
Debate on whether Australia Month should be inclusive or centered around Anglo-Celtic traditions.
(0:20:00) - (0:30:00) Nationalism vs. Libertarianism in Practice
Dusty pushes for individualism and free speech, criticizing government overreach.
Bayden argues that strong leadership and enforced national unity are necessary for stability.
Discussion on how the right-wing movement is divided and whether unity is possible.
(0:30:00) - (0:40:00) Indigenous & Multicultural Aspects of Australia Month
Bayden suggests a reconciliation-focused segment for Indigenous Australians.
Dusty critiques left-wing narratives, arguing that forced inclusivity kills cultural traditions.
Debate on whether Australian identity should be open to all or focused on Anglo-European heritage.
(0:40:00) - (0:50:00) Political Extremes & Infiltration of Movements
Discussion on far-left and far-right extremism in Australian politics.
Bayden brings up Order of the Nine Angles (O9A), alleging connections with nationalist groups.
Dusty argues that government failures have driven young people to extreme ideologies.
(0:50:00) - (0:60:00) Solutions & Closing Thoughts
Both guests agree that Australia Month is a positive movement but disagree on its execution.
Final thoughts on how the right-wing movement can unify without sacrificing core values.
I wrap up the debate, invite listeners to vote on who made the better case, and encourage discussion.
